Drew Estate and Cigar Dojo originally released the Undercrown Dogma in 2014, and was Cigar Dojo’s first of many collaborative releases. The cigar sold out quickly and became legendary and hard to find. The Undercrown Dogma was re-released in 2018 by Drew Estate first at the Rocky Mountain Cigar Festival, then to Drew Diplomat Retailers. The re-released version of the Undercrown Dogma was shown off at the 2018 IPCPR.
This cigar was reviewed blind (no bands) by a panel of at least 4 reviewers. They did not know what they were smoking beforehand. The scores are an average of all the reviewers' scores with outliers removed. All of our cigars reviewed are shipped to the panelists with Boveda packs to ensure optimal smoking experience.
The blend is a tweaked version of the Undercrown Maduro, and based off the Undercrown Maduro Corona ¡Viva! This includes a Mexican San Andres wrapper, Connecticut Stalk Cut Habano Binder, and Nicaraguan and Brazilian Mata Fina fillers. It comes in one size, a box-pressed 6×56 toro. It comes packaged in soft packed packs of 10. Each 10-pack costs $107.97.
Vital Stats:
Vitola: Toro Length: 6″ Ring Gauge: 56 Country of Origin: Nicaragua Wrapper: Mexican San Andrés Binder: USA Connecticut Stalk-Cut Habano Filler: Brazil, Nicaragua Factory: La Gran Fabrica Drew Estate Blender: Nicholas Melillo Number of reviewers: 4 – Ryan H. (Ryan H.) Mickey T. (irratebass) Doug S. (Unpossible_1) John A. (Bostoneo) Price: $10.79 Age: 4 Months Release Date: August 2019 Contributed by: Cigar Dojo
Initial Impressions
Appearance: 93
“A dark brown coffee colored cigar with a press that looks like it only applied on two sides giving it a pancake like appearance. Very small veins and seamless construction give this sample a sleek look. ” –John A. (Bostoneo)
Aroma: 92
“Aroma is very potent. Makes me very excited to light it. It is more putrid than barn yard it has a very good stink to it. Rich taste if plums on a cold draw with a fair amount if spice.” –Ryan H. (Ryan H.)
Flavor: 88 Strength: Medium Body/Complexity: Medium
“Right away I want to point out how great of a draw this is. Nice and open….been awhile since I’ve had a draw this good. I pick up graham cracker, coffee, toffee on the cold draw. There is quite a bit of milk chocolate with hints of coffee, wood and some leather. The cigar is right at a medium in strength, and I am not detecting any spice yet. There is a nice sweetness sneaking around back there as well. ” –Mickey T. (irratebass)
“I toast the foot and get the party started. I’m immediately greeted with cocoa, leather and a very feint hint of cinnamon. None of the flavors are very pronounced, but it is just getting started. The retro is a bit subdued as well, as there is only a touch of white pepper and leather. I’m really hoping this cigar opens up by the end of the first third, or this is going to be quite boring. As the first third continues, so does the cocoa. Definitely a flavor I enjoy, but really feel like it is struggling to give me much of it. Retro is slowly picking up on the white pepper, so at least there’s that.” –Doug S. (Unpossible_1)
Flavor: 92 Strength: Medium Body/Complexity: Medium
“By the second third the cigar has settled into a wonderful balanced perfectly complex cigar that is wonderful. Same profile remains bakers chocolate white pepper and leather.” –Ryan H. (Ryan H.)
“Second third puts me in a Delorean and takes me back to movie theaters in the early 90s. “”Catch some rais….catch some Raisinets!”” Cigar transforms into a chocolate cover raisin delight! Go ahead and hit YouTube up and find that commercial. You’re welcome. The raisins stick around for the retro, along with our old friend, white pepper. I’m pretty stoked right now. Just when I was worried the cigar was going to lull me to sleep, it’s got my taste buds singing “”Hallelujah””! The white pepper is tired of playing second fiddle and decides to come out and play, as the second third comes to a close.” –Doug S. (Unpossible_1)
Final Third
Flavor: 91 Strength: Medium Body/Complexity: Medium
“The last third starts with an ash to the lap as i am literally writing this. I notice a fissure form with the wrapper and binder, however the flavors remain on point. Body ramps up to medium full with flavors of dark woodsy notes, soy sauce, black pepper, cream and a musty sweetness. Even approaching the end, this cigar provides a great experience with the myriad of the aforementioned flavors, growing stronger in body. ” –John A. (Bostoneo)
“All the cream and milk chocolate has now taken a back seat, and the most flavors I am getting now is wood and leather……still no spice. ” –Mickey T. (irratebass)
Overall Impressions
Draw: 94
“Draw is spot on with the v-cut. There is just enough resistance to keep me content.” –Doug S. (Unpossible_1)
Burn: 91
“Burn never requires touch up, despite being uneven the entire time. It isn’t until the final inch or two that it really becomes a nuisance.” –Doug S. (Unpossible_1)
Construction: 90
“Other than the burn issues the construction was pretty good. It burned cool with plenty of ash and smoke.” –Mickey T. (irratebass)
Overall Strength: Medium Overall Body/Complexity: Medium Experience Overall: 93
“This cigar will clearly make it into my top 10 for the year. I love this cigar.” –Ryan H. (Ryan H.)
“This cigar was ok. There wasn’t really a lot going on with it. Other than milk chocolate, leather, wood and hints of sweetness every now and then it was just kinda there. ” –Mickey T. (irratebass)
“This cigar started off with great flavors, but they were heavily muted and concerned me. Second third proved my patience worth the wait, with incredible flavor. Wasn’t the most complex experience, but it was an immensely enjoyable cigar that I would really like to get my hands on more of. I was almost sad when I got down to the nub.” –Doug S. (Unpossible_1)
“Throughout the entirety of this sample, I felt it was very balanced, well nuanced, complex, and provided a myriad of enjoyable flavors that would entertain any cigar smoker. I myself would enjoy keeping a handful of these cigars on hand. While it didn’t blow my mind, I thoroughly enjoyed it and would be an easy recommendation to friends, seasoned or new to the hobby. ” –John A. (Bostoneo)
Smoking Time (in minutes): 103
Reviewer
Apr
Aro
1/3
2/3
3/3
Draw
Burn
Const
Ovr
All
Ryan H.
93
95
87
95
95
95
90
92
95
Mickey T.
88
88
87
88
88
100
83
85
85
Doug S.
95
95
87
95
92
95
90
97
95
John A.
93
90
90
90
90
93
92
85
90
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"This cigar started off with great flavors, but they were heavily muted and concerned me. Second third proved my patience worth the wait, with incredible flavor. Wasn't the most complex experience, but it was an immensely enjoyable cigar that I would really like to get my hands on more of. I was almost sad when I got down to the nub." -Doug S. (Unpossible_1)
